unfortunately we have a lot of barriers in the rest of the economy. for car dealers this is a wonderful time. in fact, we are looking for one for my son right now. >> may i ask what are your options? >> yes. something cheap. >> i don't blame you. how old is he? >> he is young. it will be his first car. we will find a new car, very small, new car. not a small one, but probably a ford. we will get some good financing and will probably lease it and do exactly what a lot of people are doing in this country and taking advantage of the low rates. >> why lease it versus buying? >> because probably when he goes to college we will try to get out of it, so we will get a short-term lease. we don't keep cars. we will keep a car for about four years or less. my son if he is watching he is getting a cheap car and it is going to be two or three-yearlies and he will be happy with it. >> and you know you mentioned that you switch over -- turnover the cars every four years, but a lot of people in recent times they have been hanging on to their cars for longer and longe